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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://topotheday.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/dog-owners%e2%80%99-oprah-alert/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply To Jill who &quot;wasn&#039;t offended&quot;: 

No dear, you were not &quot;supposed&quot; to be offended by it.
You are not &quot;supposed&quot; to understand that the ARista
attack on &quot;puppy mills&quot; has anything whatsoever to do
with you - with us - with reputable dog breeders, 
and owners, with the takeover of a society, or the 
extermination of, 
among others, 
all domestic animals.  
This is their long established Method of Operation;
what law enforcement refers to as a perpetrator&#039;s 
&quot;M.O.&quot; They say something you &quot;have to&quot; agree with
to get you on their side while they dig your grave - like
talking about the horrible clubbing of baby seals when
we know they don&#039;t give a DAMN about baby seals.
Well, dear, I&#039;m here to tell you that they don&#039;t give a DAMN 
about you and your &quot;responsible pet ownership&quot; either!
You are &quot;supposed&quot; to think, &quot;Well, good!  Finally
our beloved champion of the soccer moms, Oprah Winfrey,
is exposing those horrible puppy mill people and as a reputable
breeder (or dog owner) I am happy to see this.&quot;  You are not 
&quot;supposed&quot; to see it as anything more - anything sinister, 
subversive, or anything that is part of a much bigger picture.  
As a reputable breeder or owner, you are not &quot;supposed&quot; to feel 
that you are being targeted here; carefully, systematically,
and with fully evil intent.  It&#039;s all &quot;supposed&quot; to be about
&quot;the bad guys&quot; -- Not about controlling a society, eliminating
civil rights or eliminating domestic animals.  You&#039;re &quot;supposed&quot;
to agree with the idea of eliminating &quot;just the bad guys&quot;
and you&#039;re doing just as you&#039;re &quot;supposed&quot; to do.  Congratulations!
The ARistas are very proud of you, indeed.  They are also very 
proud of Oprah.....  who&#039;s eyes visibly glazed over (yes, look at 
the video!) when the folks associated with the mind control group 
(yes, look at their history!) began to speak.....  
Oh, sorry, I was not &quot;supposed&quot; to notice that, was I??  
My bad......

Does this sound &quot;far fetched&quot; to you?  I only wish it were!
That&#039;s another part of the ARista M.O. -- pretend those who
expose you are just nutty.  Most people won&#039;t bother to do
the research so you can continue to deceive them...
Do some research and be prepared to become VERY afraid!

Let me tell you something;  If you were aware of how many
people in the U.S. today - not &quot;puppy mill&quot; people, but nice folks like
you who are taking good and decent care of their animals - have 
been RAIDED and had their beloved pets CONFISCATED
and KILLED  by groups affiliated with the HSUS in the 
past five years, you would be HORRIFIED.  -- and this is only
PART of the reason you should be OFFENDED BY OPRAH!
The more they set legal precidents for this type of behavior,
the more power they snatch -- and the more rights you and
I lose.....  John Yates is no uninformed fool spouting casual opinions.
Please get informed before you have REASON to be
offended in your OWN home by the loss of your OWN animals
(and are left wondering &quot;What Happened?&quot;!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply To Jill who &#8220;wasn&#8217;t offended&#8221;: </p>
<p>No dear, you were not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be offended by it.<br />
You are not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to understand that the ARista<br />
attack on &#8220;puppy mills&#8221; has anything whatsoever to do<br />
with you &#8211; with us &#8211; with reputable dog breeders,<br />
and owners, with the takeover of a society, or the<br />
extermination of,<br />
among others,<br />
all domestic animals.<br />
This is their long established Method of Operation;<br />
what law enforcement refers to as a perpetrator&#8217;s<br />
&#8220;M.O.&#8221; They say something you &#8220;have to&#8221; agree with<br />
to get you on their side while they dig your grave &#8211; like<br />
talking about the horrible clubbing of baby seals when<br />
we know they don&#8217;t give a DAMN about baby seals.<br />
Well, dear, I&#8217;m here to tell you that they don&#8217;t give a DAMN<br />
about you and your &#8220;responsible pet ownership&#8221; either!<br />
You are &#8220;supposed&#8221; to think, &#8220;Well, good!  Finally<br />
our beloved champion of the soccer moms, Oprah Winfrey,<br />
is exposing those horrible puppy mill people and as a reputable<br />
breeder (or dog owner) I am happy to see this.&#8221;  You are not<br />
&#8220;supposed&#8221; to see it as anything more &#8211; anything sinister,<br />
subversive, or anything that is part of a much bigger picture.<br />
As a reputable breeder or owner, you are not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to feel<br />
that you are being targeted here; carefully, systematically,<br />
and with fully evil intent.  It&#8217;s all &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be about<br />
&#8220;the bad guys&#8221; &#8212; Not about controlling a society, eliminating<br />
civil rights or eliminating domestic animals.  You&#8217;re &#8220;supposed&#8221;<br />
to agree with the idea of eliminating &#8220;just the bad guys&#8221;<br />
and you&#8217;re doing just as you&#8217;re &#8220;supposed&#8221; to do.  Congratulations!<br />
The ARistas are very proud of you, indeed.  They are also very<br />
proud of Oprah&#8230;..  who&#8217;s eyes visibly glazed over (yes, look at<br />
the video!) when the folks associated with the mind control group<br />
(yes, look at their history!) began to speak&#8230;..<br />
Oh, sorry, I was not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to notice that, was I??<br />
My bad&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Does this sound &#8220;far fetched&#8221; to you?  I only wish it were!<br />
That&#8217;s another part of the ARista M.O. &#8212; pretend those who<br />
expose you are just nutty.  Most people won&#8217;t bother to do<br />
the research so you can continue to deceive them&#8230;<br />
Do some research and be prepared to become VERY afraid!</p>
<p>Let me tell you something;  If you were aware of how many<br />
people in the U.S. today &#8211; not &#8220;puppy mill&#8221; people, but nice folks like<br />
you who are taking good and decent care of their animals &#8211; have<br />
been RAIDED and had their beloved pets CONFISCATED<br />
and KILLED  by groups affiliated with the HSUS in the<br />
past five years, you would be HORRIFIED.  &#8212; and this is only<br />
PART of the reason you should be OFFENDED BY OPRAH!<br />
The more they set legal precidents for this type of behavior,<br />
the more power they snatch &#8212; and the more rights you and<br />
I lose&#8230;..  John Yates is no uninformed fool spouting casual opinions.<br />
Please get informed before you have REASON to be<br />
offended in your OWN home by the loss of your OWN animals<br />
(and are left wondering &#8220;What Happened?&#8221;!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: jill</title>
		<link>http://topotheday.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/dog-owners%e2%80%99-oprah-alert/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t the least bit offended by the Oprah show you reference.   Oprah has a huge following and if one more pet owner out there decided to get their dog spayed or neutured, or decided to think more carefully about where they buy their next pet, then all the better.  I suppose she could have done more to differentiate the responsible breeder from the greedy mill owner, but sum total I think she made people think more about taking responsbility for their pets.  Isn&#039;t this the point?  Raising awareness about the treatment of animals.  If you&#039;re treating your animals well, then why be offended by Oprah ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t the least bit offended by the Oprah show you reference.   Oprah has a huge following and if one more pet owner out there decided to get their dog spayed or neutured, or decided to think more carefully about where they buy their next pet, then all the better.  I suppose she could have done more to differentiate the responsible breeder from the greedy mill owner, but sum total I think she made people think more about taking responsbility for their pets.  Isn&#8217;t this the point?  Raising awareness about the treatment of animals.  If you&#8217;re treating your animals well, then why be offended by Oprah ?</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Check</title>
		<link>http://topotheday.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/dog-owners%e2%80%99-oprah-alert/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shows over and I have to ask.  Expose on what????  Except for one puppy, evidence was brief and blurred with vocal descriptions of their conditions lending shock value to enhance the imagination.  As Lenin once said,  &quot;a lie told often enough becomes the truth.&quot;  Having guests support those lies with &quot;maybe&#039;s&quot;, &quot;probably&quot;, &quot;could haves&quot; and &quot;I believe&quot; and watching message boards spout these &quot;maybe&#039;s&quot;, probablies&quot;, &quot;could haves&quot; and &quot;I believes&quot; as fact, shows the dumbing down of humanity.  Had Oprah truly wanted to address this issue, hard core facts would have been presented instead of her emotional side and the unsubstantiated comments of Wayne Pacelle and Dr. Rubin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shows over and I have to ask.  Expose on what????  Except for one puppy, evidence was brief and blurred with vocal descriptions of their conditions lending shock value to enhance the imagination.  As Lenin once said,  &#8220;a lie told often enough becomes the truth.&#8221;  Having guests support those lies with &#8220;maybe&#8217;s&#8221;, &#8220;probably&#8221;, &#8220;could haves&#8221; and &#8220;I believe&#8221; and watching message boards spout these &#8220;maybe&#8217;s&#8221;, probablies&#8221;, &#8220;could haves&#8221; and &#8220;I believes&#8221; as fact, shows the dumbing down of humanity.  Had Oprah truly wanted to address this issue, hard core facts would have been presented instead of her emotional side and the unsubstantiated comments of Wayne Pacelle and Dr. Rubin.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://topotheday.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/dog-owners%e2%80%99-oprah-alert/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree in part with what you say--but--I have a problem with hunting dogs--if a pet owners&#039;s dog attacks a raccoon--he has to be put down or quaranteened for months-(even if they have all shots) -in case the raccoon is rabid--However there are hunters--whose dogs go &quot;coon hunting&quot; every night--I would like to know where the line is drawn--don&#039;t hunting dogs need to adhere to the same standards as pet dogs.  Just something that I have never figured out.  would appreciate an explanation if you have one.

Hey Claudia -- I think your comment is on another post, but I will respond for you anyway.  My understanding is that coon hunters take the dogs out to chase and tree the raccoon.  The dogs don&#039;t actually tangle with the raccoon, they just chase it up a tree, where it is then shot by the hunter.  Thanks for visiting.  -- Bram

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree in part with what you say&#8211;but&#8211;I have a problem with hunting dogs&#8211;if a pet owners&#8217;s dog attacks a raccoon&#8211;he has to be put down or quaranteened for months-(even if they have all shots) -in case the raccoon is rabid&#8211;However there are hunters&#8211;whose dogs go &#8220;coon hunting&#8221; every night&#8211;I would like to know where the line is drawn&#8211;don&#8217;t hunting dogs need to adhere to the same standards as pet dogs.  Just something that I have never figured out.  would appreciate an explanation if you have one.</p>
<p>Hey Claudia &#8212; I think your comment is on another post, but I will respond for you anyway.  My understanding is that coon hunters take the dogs out to chase and tree the raccoon.  The dogs don&#8217;t actually tangle with the raccoon, they just chase it up a tree, where it is then shot by the hunter.  Thanks for visiting.  &#8212; Bram</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://topotheday.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/dog-owners%e2%80%99-oprah-alert/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oprah Winfrey is scary.  I inadvertantly watched a few minutes of her show a couple of years ago. She was cuddling an audience member who was in tears, talking about her medical bills and other tragedies.  Ms W. looked her in the face and said, &quot;You know what I&#039;m going to do for you?&quot;
Of course the whole studio went dead silent in expectation of some bill paying blessing from the multi billionairre.  (She milked it, too).  Finally she stated, &quot;I&#039;m going to pray for you; and I don&#039;t want you to think it&#039;s the same when I say that as when other people say that, because MY prayers get action!&quot;  I nearly barfed on my remote control!  It was the last time I ever allowed my TV to get &quot;stuck&quot; on that station!  I guess she never heard about the camel going thru the eye of the needle more easily than the pompous rich getting into heaven....  or maybe she just figures she can buy a bigger needle and fool God. (Just like she fools so many people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oprah Winfrey is scary.  I inadvertantly watched a few minutes of her show a couple of years ago. She was cuddling an audience member who was in tears, talking about her medical bills and other tragedies.  Ms W. looked her in the face and said, &#8220;You know what I&#8217;m going to do for you?&#8221;<br />
Of course the whole studio went dead silent in expectation of some bill paying blessing from the multi billionairre.  (She milked it, too).  Finally she stated, &#8220;I&#8217;m going to pray for you; and I don&#8217;t want you to think it&#8217;s the same when I say that as when other people say that, because MY prayers get action!&#8221;  I nearly barfed on my remote control!  It was the last time I ever allowed my TV to get &#8220;stuck&#8221; on that station!  I guess she never heard about the camel going thru the eye of the needle more easily than the pompous rich getting into heaven&#8230;.  or maybe she just figures she can buy a bigger needle and fool God. (Just like she fools so many people).</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
		<link>http://topotheday.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/dog-owners%e2%80%99-oprah-alert/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Peta and alot of other organizations misrepresent themselves. But its also an example of the vocal few who get alot of attention. As a dog owner trainer and volunteer for rescued bulldogs I hate to see people that say they are for animals and secretly have an agenda that does not only put dogs down but attacks others who try to help find good homes for dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Peta and alot of other organizations misrepresent themselves. But its also an example of the vocal few who get alot of attention. As a dog owner trainer and volunteer for rescued bulldogs I hate to see people that say they are for animals and secretly have an agenda that does not only put dogs down but attacks others who try to help find good homes for dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: slt</title>
		<link>http://topotheday.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/dog-owners%e2%80%99-oprah-alert/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>slt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a slideshow of Oprah buying her three Golden Retriever pups from a puppy farm type facility.  There is a video link at the bottom of the page as well titled &quot;Who can resist those puppy eyes?&quot;

http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200509/20050919/slide_20050919_350_201.jhtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a slideshow of Oprah buying her three Golden Retriever pups from a puppy farm type facility.  There is a video link at the bottom of the page as well titled &#8220;Who can resist those puppy eyes?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200509/20050919/slide_20050919_350_201.jhtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200509/20050919/slide_20050919_350_201.jhtml</a></p>
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