by Terry Thistlethwaite (printed with permission)
I was at a dog show last weekend, and, not unusually, the topic of discussion among several breeders and handlers during the lunch break was responsible breeding and the idea of “bettering the breed”. One Gordon Setter breeder contended that this idea has proven to be the undermining of the integrity of many breeding programs, and a Sheltie breeder went so far as to say it has caused the ruination of a number of breeds over the past thirty years. An all breed handler noted that the big winning dogs of thirty years ago were not so much campaigned to their status as they were simply deserving of it, and even those defensive of the “bettering the breed” idea were in full agreement with that pronouncement.
For those who have been active in the dog fancy for a number of years, the controversy between “bettering” and “maintaining” the breed is not new. What IS new, or at least fairly new, is that little is heard any more from the “maintaining the breed” camp. It seems newcomers to the fancy who have arrived within the past ten or twenty years or so are fully indoctrinated with the “bettering” theory, and are not even cognizant of the “maintaining” side of the argument – or even of the fact that any argument exists!
“The great winning dogs of the 1970’s were not, by far, improved on. Their outstanding qualities were lost to the breeds by a concentrated effort to produce reliable mediocrity. This is not bettering the breed, it is bettering the chances of any and every litter producing dogs that are decent enough to win. Such mediocre champions are being campaigned against each other to attain great show records, as though it were the number of wins, and not the quality of the dogs that is important.”
That statement was made by a judge who declined to have his name attached to it on an internet blog, and perhaps that refusal is testament in itself to the problem of the general deterioration of breed quality in show dogs.
The dog fancy, once comprised of individuals and families devoted to what every breed club’s code of ethics still defines as the promotion and preservation of the breed, has lately broadened it’s membership to include the player of the dog show sport. In the well considered opinion of many, it is this player who has brought a whole pack of unwelcome cards to the table. While everyone prefers to believe that the competitive nature of dog shows bodes for the end result of the best of the best rising to the top, what we wish to believe is in sad conflict with what we know to be fact. The top winning dog in one non sporting breed, a dog that won both the national specialty and Westminster, crosses over in the front and peddles in the rear. In one sporting breed, hocking out has become the usual mode of rear movement (NOT per the standard!) and a judge who seeks a dog with a correct rear end assembly will not be asked back for another assignment. At one breed national last year, the winning dog was so structurally deficient that the handler refused photos to be taken except for head shots. All of these dogs have been heavily campaigned, widely advertised, and despite their deplorable lack of conformation quality, used in breeding programs designed to “better the breed” by creating similarly unsound but politically connected “show dogs”.
Does this mean that purebred show dogs have gone to hell in a hand basket? As the puppy millers are finding it increasingly difficult to register their mutts with the AKC, and have thus turned to admitting the unregisterable status of their “designer dogs” with the twist of attempting to capitalize on their mongrel status by claiming it to be “superior”, the fancy may well understand the incongruity, but the public is not so perceptive. Dog showing was never meant to be a sport, and to the conscientious breeder / fancier, it is still not. The disgruntled group of breeders, handlers, and judges I had the privilege to converse with last weekend are not tossing in the towel and turning over the future of their breeds to the heavy campaigners and cookie cutter champion producers. They are representative of a solid core of reputable dog people who WILL maintain and preserve the breeds. They will even finish champions, and now and again take home a big win. They will represent their dogs both knowledgeably and honestly, placing the majority of their puppies in appreciative homes where they will do the work they were responsibly bred to do as exemplary sporting dogs, watch dogs, hunting dogs, herding dogs, and companion dogs par excellence. They will keep puppies which best represent the breed standard – Not the current fad - for their own enjoyment of the breed, contribution to the future, and yes, appearances in the show ring. Those appearances will be for the purpose of exhibiting their honest contribution to the maintaining of the quality of their chosen breed, and when the judges are confident enough to look hard, they will both see and select them. Bettering the breeder, bettering the fancier, bettering the purpose of showing dogs, and bettering the education of the public who love dogs as we do is the goal of those who strive to maintain the breeds.
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Tags: dog breeder, dog fancier, dog show
January 21, 2008 at 2:16 am
Great post! I honestly think that breeders that are out there to “better the breed” are actually few and far between. Most people will have to admit that there is always a hidden agenda to their breedings. . .money, politics, status, breeder popularity, social popularity, to produce purely pet quality, etc. It’s not right, but there is nothing anyone can do about it. It just sucks!
January 21, 2008 at 6:13 am
This was a well written artical.
I believe both working dog fanciers and show dog fanciers have at heart to always improve their favorite breed of dog.
I love to train sars and show my dogs. My dogs love to work and please me. I guess I get the best of both worlds.
In germany before dogs can work sars they must compete and win in the show ring.
When I choose a puppy to train in sars its beauty is not always my first pick. Inteligence and drive and health are. This is what seperates the back yard breeders from the profesional breeders.
But because of the breed I know that people always see beauty before brains or noses.
January 21, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I so agree with this assessment. I believe it is not only the heavy advertising, but also that few people these days actually know
canine structure, particularly front assembly.
Carolyn judje #1409
January 22, 2008 at 1:01 am
Amen!
January 22, 2008 at 3:20 am
Wow – well written and well put. It is tough to see the fads win and glow in their own fame – and the good dogs wait to be noticed.
January 22, 2008 at 4:41 am
Have been seeing this for years ,so very glad this is finally an issue.
Thanks for this, Paws For Thought!
Cheers/Barb
Behaven Shelties
January 23, 2008 at 3:22 am
Here Here!! I wonder, if I keep Everything intact, may I list this on its own page on my website for others in my breed to read, as well as those many that come visiting my website? The more we get such as above out for the serious breeder to see, the more they might strive to get back to being serious about our breed(s) as should have been all along although we also fight PETA now-a-days). Thank you either way, for a VERY well written article. Sincerely, Tessa of Ashlinn Shelties
January 23, 2008 at 11:08 am
WOW! Thank you for writing this article. I am fairly new to dog showing (last 6 years) and it is VERY hard to continue to compete and do the “right” thing for your breed. Not to mention the lack of communication between exhibitor and judge. I have thought many times, that the judge should be VERY willing to give an exhibitor a critique of their dog and also tell people(all of the exhibitors) why they picked the dog they did to win on that day. I really think this should be a part of the “show” process. Thus making them accountable for what they are putting up in the show ring. In my opinion, in the conformation ring, it should not be about the way a “good” handler can HIDE the faults of a dog, it should be about what the dog has to offer or lacks; not how the handler handles them. This is exactly what is discouraging people from participating in dog showing. I will continue to show my dogs in AKC (with handlers, because I have to to finish my dogs) but am seeking other avenues for them as well, i.e. UKC where they promote owner handling. For me, it is about enjoying time with my dogs, knowing what their attributes are and are not, then deciding if they are breed worthy. JMO but know there are many others who share my views.
January 23, 2008 at 5:25 pm
This is something I posted on a public forum and it can be quoted. As a breeder of 40 years and now a judge, I feel many of our breeds are being “improved” to death!
“I can’t imagine the sheer hubris required for anyone to say he or she can IMPROVE the breed! For openers, who says the breed as a whole needs to be improved? If you don’t like this breed, get into a different one! Secondly, how can someone say he or she knows WHERE that “improvement” is needed or HOW it can be accomplished. Personal taste and priorities are always at issue. It is an ego trip of the highest order.
A more benign, breed-centered goal is to preserve the breed as it was developed in the first place. We, individually, may not live in the same terrain or perform the same functions as those who developed our breed, but that does not prevent us from recognizing (through study) and protecting those traits that made the breed unique in the first place.
Let’s look at facts. Most of us (with a few exceptions) will ever breed enough dogs to have any long-term effect on the breed at large. That is why I practice improving the lives of the breed at small – in my own yard. I can improve the health prospects, longevity, functional utility, working attitude, etc. of my OWN dogs through selective breeding without changing the breed in any significant way. If I select for shorter muzzles because I “like” that look, am I “improving” my dogs or detrimentally altering the form that is required for the original function? Even if I don’t participate in that original activity, the true guide is the history, form and function of the breed. There are no easy answers and few clear-cut goals – except those found through study and a willingness to let personal taste take a back seat to breed integrity. The standards (because there have been several and changes through the century) give us the guidelines and through study we try to build a mental blueprint so that our choices are driven by what preserves the breed’s essence while improving the lives of the individual dogs. That is my commitment to the breed at small – and the future of the gene pool.”
January 23, 2008 at 8:28 pm
BRAVO! So very well said. I’ve shown dogs for 40 years, and still cling to the illusion that someday they will return to being a measurement of breeding stock as opposed to the grooming and showmanship competition that they have become.
Cookie cutter is right. People tout their “small, select breeding program” What that translates to is that they won’t keep any puppy with, for instance, a superior shoulder assembly that doesn’t have the correct tail set for the breed because they know they wouldn’t win with it. That translates to an entire breed that has upright shoulders and correct tailsets and there is nowhere to turn for correct running gear. Judges don’t have the testicular fortitude to put up an individual that is good where the breed average is bad, and breeders don’t have the patience to keep a dog and breed it to infuse its virtues into their line but not show it.
January 23, 2008 at 9:11 pm
WOW… How well put.
Great read.
Thank you,
Rick
January 23, 2008 at 9:55 pm
THIS WAS WONDERFUL TO READ !.. AS A FANCIER FOR 36 YEARS, I OFTEN WANT TO GIVE UP SHOWING DOGS DUE TO THE “POLITICS” AND THE NEED FOR EXTREMELY DEEP POCKETS REQUIRED TO PLAY THE GAME.. IT SEEMS TO BE MONEY THAT WINS.. NO MATTER HOW POOR THE SPECIMEN MAY BE, IF THERE IS A BIG ENOUGH BUDGET, THAT SPECIMEN WILL WIN.. WHILE THOSE OF US WHO MIGHT CARE DEEPLY ABOUT WHAT WE PRODUCE ( AND IN MY CASE , PRODUCE VERY LITTLE DUE TO AN OVER-ARCHING CONCERN FOR THE WELFARE OF THE PUPS I PLACE)
I ALSO LAMENT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW OLD TIME TRUE
“DOG PEOPLE” LEFT.. JUDGES THAT KNEW HOW A WORKING DOG SHOULD BE PUT TOGETHER AND WHY IT SHOULD BE BUILT THAT WAY, ARE ALL BUT EXTINCT.. TODAY’S JUDGES WANT TO BE PHOTOGRAPHED WITH WINNERS WHO WILL TAKE BIG ADS IN DOG MAGAZINES.. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING ANY DARING CHOICES WHEN THEY JUDGE.. THEY WANT TO BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF PREVIOUS JUDGES WHO ALSO “FOUND” THAT DOG AND PUT HIM UP.. NONE OF THIS HAS ANY BENEFIT TO THE DOGS THEMSELVES.. IT CERTAINLY DOES NOTHING TO “IMPROVE” EITHER THE HEALTH OF OUR DOGS, NOR DOES IT BENEFIT THE SPORT.
January 23, 2008 at 11:44 pm
A wonderful, and accurate, article. Thank You, Sandy
January 23, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Thank you for a very well written article.
January 24, 2008 at 4:29 am
I agree with what is said above. So many of the big winnig dogs can not do what they where bred to do. Movement is the first thing to get thrown away then temperment.
I have people and judges comment on the wonderful movement on my dogs, just wish more judges would take note of it and not put up animals that are so incorecct they could never do the job they were bred for.
January 24, 2008 at 3:42 pm
You make some excellent points. A problem I see with some of the “maintenance” and “betterment” advocates is that often the standards are set by those who really mean to obtain a competitive edge by feigning adherence to their breed’s Standard as interpreted in the image of their own preferences and contrary to those of their deserving competitors. Breeders truly interested in maintaining or bettering their breed should be careful not to swap one “cookie cutter champion producer” for another.
January 24, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Well written article and so very true. I often wish dogshows were less political and dogs were put up on their own merits and not who happened to be on the other end of the leash. Breeding to the standard should be the norm.
January 24, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Could I get permission to publish this article in our breed club magazine? It is right on and very well written.
January 24, 2008 at 6:58 pm
As a 37-year breeder/fancier of Siberian Huskies, internationally
recognized judge of the breed and author of three books on the breed,
I feel this analysis of one of the most troubling aspects of
contempory dog breeding and dog show obsessiveness is entirely on
target. Real dogs for real people should be our goal, not politically
manufactured, obscenely over-funded and over-campaigned foo-foos of
fashion.
January 24, 2008 at 7:02 pm
As a 37-year breeder/fancier of Siberian Huskies, internationally
recognized judge of the breed and author of three books on the breed,
I feel this analysis of one of the most troubling aspects of
contempory dog breeding and dog show obsessiveness is entirely on
target. Real dogs for real people should be our goal, not politically
manufactured, obscenely over-funded and over-campaigned foo-foos of
fashion.
Mike
January 24, 2008 at 9:24 pm
AMEN AMEN!!! A voice of reason!
As I was taught – Live up to your breed standard – don’t try to improve it!
January 24, 2008 at 9:55 pm
I have to agree with a lot of what you said. I have been involved in the “sport/career” of dogs for only 12 short years and have watched the amazing change of the breed I enjoy (Australian Shepherds). I myself stick with the smaller to moderate dog and proudly show them in limited conformation shows so that judges can see they should not look like Berners nor should they be the size of a toy breed. My goal has never been to “better the breed” but to ensure that I do not contribute to it’s ruin.
Well written!
Renea Dahms
January 24, 2008 at 9:56 pm
AMEN!
January 25, 2008 at 12:47 am
Can this article be re-printed with appropriate credits given? What steps would be needed for this to occur?
Thank you
Beth Johnson
January 25, 2008 at 3:11 am
This article is so true, and so very timely. As a long time breeder/exibitor I can totally connect with what the writer is saying. Dog shows were originally meant to be ” a breeder’s showcase” – now, these days, it seems whomever has the most money will be able to campaign a mediocre dog to the top.
January 25, 2008 at 4:35 am
Excellent article – as one of the mainstay type breeders I wonder what will happen as the mainstays get tired, tired of breeding nice dogs and being ignored, tired of having a hard time finding even good pet homes, tired of fighting zoning and legislation and so on.
I know I’ve tried my darnedest to share the genes I’ve been preserving with other breeders around the world, and tried to seek out less noticed dogs with excellent results, but I watch as people totally ignore excellent studs owned by now less than visible breeders while pursuing the top winners and narrowing the gene pool dramatically and the things I find worrying your article nicely sums up!
Thanks for taking the time to write and share it!
January 25, 2008 at 5:18 am
As someone who has been involved in breeding and showing dogs for 40+ years, I could not agree with you more! Excellent writing.
January 25, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Excellent article. Soundess of mind and body should always be at the forefront of every breeding program. 90% of our animals are sold to loving pet homes who don’t expect their family member to break down and become lame or very ill at a young age.
Kudos
Linda
CKC Life Member
CKC Dog Show Rep Zone7
CKCJudge#628
AKCJudge#7218
VP CSSA
Director Candian Dog Judges
January 25, 2008 at 2:16 pm
You may believe that there is still a large camp of breeders who continue to strive for “maintaining the breed” and that there is hope for the future. I think not. I think that the entire show world competitiveness for glamor has gotten so out of hand that has driven out any possible “newcomer” that shares your values. There may be a population of breeders doing the right thing today, but I see no hope for the future. Some of the better breeders I have known don’t show anymore. When good, thinking people who love the dog described in the standard, and love the notion that genetics has shaped a beautiful and so selectively specific creature such as their breed no longer can tolerate the alien environment known as the Dog Show, there really is no hope for the future.
A former president of my breed club once asked me what I felt was more important to work towards: conformation or health. To ask this question speaks volumes… since when was it possible to divide those goals? the new generation of ribbon seekers don’t get that type IS healthy. Now that Dog Shows are national TV programs, and the status of celebrity owners and handlers has skyrocketed, I truly mourn the loss of the purebred dog as was once known. It was at one time, a magical feat of man to control genetics and to create such a diverse and fascinating group of breeds all from a single ancestor and each breed to a purposeful function. We now seem to strive to undo all the greatness in favor of status and celebrity.
January 25, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Excellent dissection of what really ails the purebred dog fancy today. Dog showing is a business to employ professional handlers, just look at the explosion of handler ads in any brag rag. The tail is now officially wagging the dog.
January 26, 2008 at 12:02 am
“noted that the big winning dogs of thirty years ago were not so much campaigned to their status as they were simply deserving of it”
All I can say is WOW…this is hitting the nail on the head…..could not have said it any better.
Having been in my breed for over thirty years, I wrestle with this idea: Did I think the dogs were better back then because I knew so much less or were they really as good as I perceived them? I do think it had nothing to do with what I knew but rather with the quality of those exhibits….it was thrilling to be ringside and watch the outcome.
Nowadays, it is all about who has the most money to put their dogs into the ads……and then sit back and watch them win.
January 26, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Yes, I agree. I started showing my breed (Dalmatians) in 1973, after going to some shows to find exactly what I wanted, to start my lines. My goal was to have a sound Dal, in structure and temperment. I knew the physical ‘type’ that I preferred, and when I look out my window and watch them trot around the yard, I’d say that I have achieved that goal. When I look for a stud dog, I have a very hard time finding one that matches my requirements, whether it’s structure, temperment, or health. Also, I will not breed to the “popular sire” unless he has “it”. My litters are very few and far between. The top winners usually are pro handled, and, not ones that I want in my breeding program!
January 31, 2008 at 3:11 pm
WOW – what a great thread! A good friend forwarded this to me and I’m very much in agreement with your comments. Especially the last paragraph that describes the plight of the dedicated breeder.
The breeds will survive as there are breeders (handler and judges) dedicated to bettering the breed(s) and not just selling the greatest number of puppies.
Producing physically sound dogs with solid temperments, that can do the job their breed was originally produced to do and be an outstanding family pet is what I personally strive to produce. I keep what I feel will provide the greatest contribution in the future and place the rest in good homes.
It’s not the number of champions that a breeder produces that makes one a “Great Breeder” – it’s the integrity with which one plans and produces puppies and the commitment to the dogs that creates a breeder that will have a positive impact as a whole.
thanks!
February 17, 2008 at 3:48 pm
This is a wonderful article. I would be very appreciative if someone could contact me regarding possible permission to print it in our club newsletter. I will provide all the details of our club and newsletter in a reply.
Thank you.
February 20, 2008 at 5:32 am
I cannot tell you how true this article rings- especially for me and my breed! I found it to be the most brutally honest and educational piece that I have read in a long time. Thank you! I was also hoping I might get your permission to have it printed in my kennel club’s newsletter. Would this be possible?
I think there are MANY who could learn from this.
February 21, 2008 at 12:04 am
Hey – I thought this article was awsome! I am the newsletter editor for a small PB breed club, and I was wondering if I might have your permission to run this article…I think it has alot of value!
Thanks so much and I’d love to hear from you!
~Cate
March 5, 2008 at 11:28 pm
May I add these thoughts to yours?……..Doesn’t PRESERVING THE BREED AS IT WAS DEVELOPED also mean that ALL COLORS listed in the breed standard should be equally considered and accepted by breeders, handlers, and ESPECIALLY judges?…….Well, you tell that to English Setter breeders, campaigners, handlers and judges!!!! Breeders have been “getting rid of” lemons and livers for years because they DO NOT LIKE thier eye color……and for that reason, in the 40’s, the breed standard was conveniently changed to read: Eyes-dark brown, the darker the better. They may as well have totally eliminated liver and lemon beltons entirely from the written standard because these two colors NEVER produce dark brown eyes!
So, they have actually done the opposite of preserving the breed……they have MARKED FOR EXTINCTION two of the breed’s standard colors…….What a shame!……Ask any of them and you will realize that they SHUN these dogs along with any breeder whose line produces one (heaven forbid!), and they look upon owners who have enough nerve to bring them into the show ring with disgust!
Well, I am the proud owner of a lemon belton who is a great specimen of the breed with a wonderful temperment. I am showing him every chance I get even though this on top of the campaigning issue makes winning almost impossible. I am doing this because I strongly believe that what the breeders and judges have done over the years is WRONG! Who do they think they are?
I have been a lover of the breed for forty years. My belief is that……..A GOOD DOG IS A GOOD DOG!…….so, wish me luck…… I am not just fighting to win points…..I am fighting what will probably be a loosing battle to have these dogs accepted and thus saved from extinction.
March 6, 2008 at 5:04 am
may 2008 marks 14 yrs. in my breed. i agree completely with this article. We are strainbuilding and I get laughed at for our efforts. I don’t care. I don’t show my dogs because it isn’t necessary… as long as I have the private positive evaluative opinions of folks in my breed who are like the person who wrote this article. Why should I consider spending all that money to show my dog when the ring is rife with accusations of impropriaty and instead I can put that money into my breeding program and health testing.
March 6, 2008 at 6:21 am
“It is upon the excellence of the general character of the individuals of the breed, rather than upon the length of the head or the breadth of the skull or similar details, that the breed will stand, and the successful support to the breed must be upon the basis of this greater vision, if the breeders of collies are to succeed in their purpose of bettering the breed.” Edwin L. Pickhardt “The Collie In America” 1924
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That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Karen
March 6, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Correction………
Typo on the 40’s…….Should be 80’s when the standard was changed
Sorry.
November 24, 2008 at 3:46 am
I come back to this article many times to help me stick to my convictions regarding my breed. Funny, I have always been one who has said “maintain” the breed, even as a newbie some 30 years ago. I felt it arrogant to think that I alone could “improve” upon the wonderful dogs that were entrusted to me by breeders so much more accomplished than I.
Thank you for the discussion.